{"id":1256,"date":"2019-11-13T00:00:57","date_gmt":"2019-11-12T23:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/?p=1256"},"modified":"2023-03-20T10:25:25","modified_gmt":"2023-03-20T09:25:25","slug":"double-trouble","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/?p=1256","title":{"rendered":"Double Trouble"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p> Tiens j&rsquo;aimerais parler d&rsquo;un cas int\u00e9ressant d&rsquo;adaptation en VF : la saison 4 de She-Ra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cette nouvelle saison introduit un personnage g\u00e9nial&#8230; <strong>Double Trouble<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>C&rsquo;est un.e metamorphe doubl\u00e9.e par le non moins g\u00e9nial <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jacob_Tobia\">Jacob Tobia<\/a>, que j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9couvert.e \u00e0 cette occasion. Sa prestation est jouissive !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Personnellement, en quelques secondes, Double Trouble est rentr\u00e9.e dans le hall of fame de mes personnages favoris.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/wp-content\/serveimage-1024x580.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1257\" width=\"738\" height=\"418\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/wp-content\/serveimage-1024x580.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/wp-content\/serveimage-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/wp-content\/serveimage-768x435.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/wp-content\/serveimage.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Jacob Tobia est une personne non-binaire qui demande l&rsquo;utilisation du \u00ab\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/They_singulier\">singular they<\/a>\u00a0\u00bb \u00e0 son \u00e9gard. Ce \u00ab\u00a0they singulier\u00a0\u00bb et ses d\u00e9riv\u00e9s sont des pronoms \u00e9pic\u00e8nes qui existent en anglais depuis 600 ans et que les personnes non-binaires reprennent logiquement en tant que sujet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Noelle_Stevenson\">Noelle Stevenson<\/a>, l&rsquo;autrice de la s\u00e9rie, a utilis\u00e9 le singular they pour le personnage de Double Trouble, qui est \u00e9galement non-binaire (logique pour un.e m\u00e9tamorphe). D&rsquo;apr\u00e8s ses propres d\u00e9clarations, c&rsquo;est m\u00eame Netflix qui a incit\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;utilisation de ce pronom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Et donc, dans le monde d&rsquo;Etheria, l&rsquo;utilisation du singular they est courant.<br>Lorsque les personnages parlent de Double Trouble, ils l&rsquo;utilisent naturellement !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(pas de spoiler sur l&rsquo;intrigue principale, rassurez-vous)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-video aligncenter\"><video height=\"360\" style=\"aspect-ratio: 640 \/ 360;\" width=\"640\" controls src=\"https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/wp-content\/doubletrouble_en.mp4\"><\/video><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Question : <strong>comment ont-ils adapt\u00e9 en fran\u00e7ais ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La question du genre neutre est min\u00e9 dans notre langue, o\u00f9 il n&rsquo;existe historiquement pas ; il est souvent repr\u00e9sent\u00e9 par le masculin. Ce qui est rejet\u00e9, entre autres, par une partie de la communaut\u00e9 LGBTQI+.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Je vais pas rentrer trop dans le sujet car comme je viens de le dire, c&rsquo;est un sujet complexe et les concern\u00e9.es ne sont pas forc\u00e9ment du m\u00eame avis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/wp-content\/EIzxUV5VAAABa-I.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1259\" width=\"739\" height=\"442\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/wp-content\/EIzxUV5VAAABa-I.jpg 440w, https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/wp-content\/EIzxUV5VAAABa-I-300x180.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 739px) 100vw, 739px\" \/><figcaption>Oui je sais, c&rsquo;est le drapeau transgenre&#8230; mais les couleurs vont trop bien avec Double Trouble. (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/eboydabi\/status\/1192593337070436352?s=20\">montage par eboydabi<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Globalement, la r\u00e8gle c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;il est d&rsquo;usage de respecter les pronoms et les accords demand\u00e9s par chaque personne.<br>Je vous assure que c&rsquo;est pas si dur que \u00e7a.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Et puis \u00e7a s&rsquo;appelle le respect.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mais&#8230; Double Trouble est un personnage \u00e9crit par des anglophones. Du coup, c&rsquo;est la personne qui adapte qui d\u00e9cide du genre utilis\u00e9 lors de la traduction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>J&rsquo;avoue que j&rsquo;ai un moment pens\u00e9 que le singular they serait traduit par un pronom neutre moderne comme <a href=\"https:\/\/entousgenresblog.wordpress.com\/2017\/04\/19\/quels-pronoms-neutres-en-francais-et-comment-les-utiliser\/\">\u00ab\u00a0iel\u00a0\u00bb, \u00ab\u00a0ul\u00a0\u00bb, \u00ab\u00a0ol\u00a0\u00bb<\/a>&#8230; mais non.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dans la VF, le personnage s&rsquo;appelle Doublia, ce qui suit la r\u00e8gle des noms f\u00e9minins en \u00ab\u00a0-a\u00a0\u00bb sur Etheria. Sa voix a un timbre f\u00e9minin, et le pronom utilis\u00e9 est \u00ab\u00a0elle\u00a0\u00bb : \u00e7a semble en tout point \u00eatre une femme.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Notons que de temps en temps, l&rsquo;adaptation h\u00e9site: parfois le masculin est utilis\u00e9 (\u00ab\u00a0un m\u00e9tamorphe\u00a0\u00bb)&#8230; j&rsquo;ai m\u00eame vu \u00ab\u00a0elles\u00a0\u00bb dans les sous-titres.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-video aligncenter\"><video height=\"360\" style=\"aspect-ratio: 640 \/ 360;\" width=\"640\" controls src=\"https:\/\/www.fenarinarsa.com\/wp-content\/doubletrouble_fr.mp4\"><\/video><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Je ne sais pas quel est l&rsquo;avis des personnes concern\u00e9es, je ne fais que constater.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Peut-\u00eatre \u00e9tait-ce une directive donn\u00e9e pour toutes les adaptations dans des langues qui n&rsquo;ont pas de pronom \u00e9pic\u00e8ne ou neutre \u00ab\u00a0historique\u00a0\u00bb ? \u00c7a pourrait \u00eatre le cas, histoire de ne pas laisser les \u00e9quipes de traduction s&#8217;embourber dans des d\u00e9bats infinis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ce post \u00e9tait garanti 100% Double Trouble.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tiens j&rsquo;aimerais parler d&rsquo;un cas int\u00e9ressant d&rsquo;adaptation en VF : la saison 4 de She-Ra. Cette nouvelle saison introduit un personnage g\u00e9nial&#8230; Double Trouble. C&rsquo;est un.e metamorphe doubl\u00e9.e par le non moins g\u00e9nial Jacob Tobia, que j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9couvert.e \u00e0 cette occasion. Sa prestation est jouissive ! 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